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Prerunning and recordoing simultaneously

alexralexr Posts: 20Member ✭✭
Hi guys,

Is there a way to pre run and record simultaneously. Generally when setting a track I generally have a good idea of where I'm going and don't spend hours before hand plotting the route before I go.
What I would like to do is create a route on the fly using pre runner mode, this can then be ran a second time to check, edit and then distributed to the group for the planned weekend.
Is the possible?

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  • Damian_offthegridDamian_offthegrid Posts: 641Administrator, Moderator admin
    We are working on something like this. However right now PRERUNNER only edits a current Route on the fly. So you have to convert a recorded Track or a provided Track, into a Route, to then go PreRun your own notes into.

    However we were actually discussing a future upgrade to allow PreRunner to Drop a Route while editing on the fly.

    Thanks for the input!
  • mlombardimlombardi Posts: 1Member
    We have the same need to prerun a set route, but then also drop the current track. We are evaluating Leadnav for use in prerunning then racing. The typical scenario would be that we would have a provided track converted to a route which we then prerun. While prerunning we normally lay down our current track as there are "either or's" and "alternates" we would be exploring. We then note the desired route and save it all.

    The ideal solution would be to have an option on the screen at all times to "start recording track" and "stop recording track" with simple taps of the screen. Edits and notes could then be made if needed.
  • Damian_offthegridDamian_offthegrid Posts: 641Administrator, Moderator admin
    mlombardi said:

    We have the same need to prerun a set route, but then also drop the current track. We are evaluating Leadnav for use in prerunning then racing. The typical scenario would be that we would have a provided track converted to a route which we then prerun. While prerunning we normally lay down our current track as there are "either or's" and "alternates" we would be exploring. We then note the desired route and save it all.

    The ideal solution would be to have an option on the screen at all times to "start recording track" and "stop recording track" with simple taps of the screen. Edits and notes could then be made if needed.

    To answer your overall question... Yes you can start and stop Track Recording at any time and it is highly recommend while PreRunning. This is done at the bottom of MENU... just tap on the Rec Button bottom Right. Then at night after a PreRunning you can edit the race route over the hotlines you want to take or just visually use those blue Track lines race day as an alternate...

    We want to change PreRunner from editing an existing Race Route to editing your own path...but this will take a ton of coding while possibly introducing other issues...it is definitely on the To Do's but our current developments involve features even more highly requested by our Race Teams and larger markets. Again.... you can just drag the Race route over to your Blue Track hotlines after prerunning...


    Thank you for the interest in LEADNAV. With our current capabilities I would say its a smart move to incorporate LEADNAV into your racing program even at its basic levels. We are very familiar with what goes on in PreRunning as we have worked side by side with almost every Pro team or racer to build in a few features to make their lives easier. This past Baja 1000 alone we had a few of our supported race teams win their class to include Trophy Truck (Rob MacCachren/Voss....Rob whom we worked with and trained over the past month), Trophy Truck Spec (Rod/Clint Spitfire Racing with their new Jimco that strictly runs LEADNAV...no Lawrence), Trophy Lite (Rod/Clint Spitfire Racing that strictly runs LEADNAV...no Lawrence), The Campbells in their Rock Crawler and more than a few others over the years.

    The other teams/racers who currently utilize LEADNAV in some form or fashion to help them PreRun are The Terrible Herbst/Ryan Arciero (whom we work very closely with), Apdaly, Lalo, BJ Baldwin, Robby Gordon, Ricky Johnson, Casey Currie, The Campbells and a dozen more.

    So working with these teams we know where we can improve their current system....where we fit in and where we don't...and whats worth our time as we are not just a racing company. Even though we do spend a large amount of our efforts working with this industry...we try to build universal solutions throughout our larger markets. Prerunning only comes up about once or twice a year and only for a dozen or more people worldwide that actually get to prerun. These teams are also aware of our larger efforts in building capabilities that will far benefit you over PreRunning alone...so even though we know there are some tweaks needed to make PreRunner better...these future capabilities are taking priority.

    That all being said... LEADNAV currently blows away any current system for planning, coordination and navigation.

    One thing to consider is that the Lawrence (Fishfinder/Chartplotter) found its way into desert racing due to it being a very basic, slap the lines and points into it, drive over top of those lines, plug it in and go device.... Even though Garmin is the primary tool utilized in all of our military mobility operations worldwide...over the past decade...

    Why?

    Garmin is more complicated...a true GPS platform that offers actual "Routing"... Using these devices daily, training on them, using them operationally...they are huge assets adding higher capabilities then any Lawrence could.

    LEADNAV with our push into the military with Tablets and Smartphones has now totally wiped out Garmin in Combat and has added even greater capability...which in turn takes even more training and time utilizing the system.... but the benefits are huge...

    I am saying all this because we have found that desert racers as a group tend to only care about their navigation roughly "1-2 weeks" before the actual 1000 mile race....once a year... We know this because almost all of our yearly hardware and training happens 1-2 week before a major race...some requesting over night delivery and training over the phone days before the race...we typically tell those teams NO...come back next year...early...with some training!

    Point being if your not willing to go out and practice utilizing LEADNAV or receiving our direct race support (as these other large teams are starting to do) then you probably won't get all the benefits from the system but even using it at its basic level it will give you huge benefits and here is why...

    Primary uses of LEADNAV

    Finding hotlines/alternative routes - Not only do you have the satellite imagery in the field to make this happen but most of the teams study the race course at home long before prerunning. Marking possible lines to PreRun when they get down there.

    Putting in obvious hazards - Similar to the above... most racers like Rob Mac studied this last Baja 1000 for weeks at home on LEADNAV. Dirt Diving in his head and Marking in hazards that he remembered utilizing the satellite imagery. Putting in Hard Rights and lefts...riverbeds... before stepping foot in Baja.

    Race Strategy and coordination - Studying the course you can come up with a better plan before going down to waste time PreRunning. You can then share this plan throughout the team in LEADNAV. Sending out linkup points, hotels, pits and any other info that Race or Chase might benefit from over email, Airdrop or through your team DropBox account

    In the end LEADNAV takes training and work to maximize potential. We run classes monthly and work with teams constantly to improve their performance.

    Next up... King of Hammers where we will be starting 2 months early to prep Casey Currie, Campbells and Jessi Combs for the race!

    Thank you for utilizing the Community forum!

    Damian
    CEO / Founder
    LEADNAV
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